For these reasons, I am not convinced that John 17:5 serves as either a proof-text or an exegetical argument for the pre-incarnate existence of Jesus as a distinct divine person from the Father.
I think the crucial point of disagreement was made very clear in the point of the debate at which Andy asked Jeff (at about 43:30 in the YouTube video): "What is the foundation of your faith? Why do you believe what you believe?" Jeff, in his typical quick and confident manner, replied: "The Word of the Living God!" Andy apparently wasn't adequately prepared to reply to this answer and responded with a weak, "Ok...". (It is even worse if you are watching the YouTube video because he follows up with a shoulder shrug and a smirk...)
I wonder, if the solution of the Scriptures is mere myth, the fancy of “iron-age peasants” as certain atheistic thinkers are fond of saying, what better solution is there in which man should place his faith?
After asking someone recently why we should trust the deliverances of our senses and being looked at like I was insane, I thought it was time to put my thoughts to writing. The topic of epistemology is very fascinating to me. This is the study of knowledge. It asks such questions as: What is "knowledge"? … Continue reading Does This Make Sense?